Join host Jeff King on the Into the Deep podcast, featuring weekly stories from persecuted believers who have suffered for Christ.

This Week's Episode

Episode 19: Tom Doyle—Opening the 10/40 Window

In part three of Jeff King’s interview with Tom Doyle, he gives an inside look into the secret life of Muslim Background Believers (MBBs) around the world today and the dangers that they face after converting to Christianity.


Into the Deep contains interviews and stories about the persecution of Christians around the world.

Featured Guests and Speakers

Francis Chan
Maryam and Marziyeh
Pastor Greg Zetts
Dan Baumann
Hormoz Shariat

Jeff King takes you on a spiritual journey that is insightful and heartbreaking. Get ready for your faith to be transformed.

Past Episodes

Episode 1: I Am Jesus, Whom You Are Persecuting
Jeff King interviews Pastor Greg Zetts, a former alcoholic saved by the Lord, who recounts the beginning of his whirlwind, Kingdom-centered life as a visionary pastor and missionary.
Episode 2: The Persecuted and Us

In part two of Jeff King’s interview with Pastor Greg Zetts, Zetts remembers a harrowing encounter with secret police in Vietnam, where he experiences a brief moment of what the persecuted experience every day. Zetts encourages believers to follow in the footsteps of the persecuted by building their lives on an eternal foundation.

Episode 3: Iran's Explosive Underground Church

Jeff King interviews Dr. Hormoz Shariat, founder of Iran Alive Ministries: a church-planting organization that uses media (satellite broadcast, radio, and social media) to start, support, lead, and multiply the underground church networks in Iran. Dr. Shariat talks about the amazing spiritual revival that is sweeping through Iran as the church explodes, becoming a force for change.

Episode 4: My Heart Stayed in Morocco

Jeff King interviews famous televangelist to the Middle East, Brother Rachid, who left his hard-line Muslim community after converting to Christianity in Morocco, joined the underground church, and eventually started his own Christian T.V. show.

Episode 5: Change is Coming

In part two of Jeff King’s interview with famous televangelist Brother Rachid, they discuss the colossal failure of Islam in so many regions. Brother Rachid explains what the Lord is doing in Algeria, Egypt, Morocco and Iraq and as well as how He is using satellite T.V. in the Middle East to call people to His greater purpose.

Episode 6: The Greatest Threat to North Korea

Jeff King interviews North Korea expert Suzanne Scholte, who delves into the origin of the spiritual warfare waging in North Korea, explaining how Christianity became the greatest threat to the foundation of the Kim dynasty. Stay tuned for part two next week, as Suzanne explains how information, care, and love is shining through the cracks in the regime from her own Free North Korea Radio.

Episode 7: The Lord's Bride

In part two of Jeff King’s interview with Suzanne Scholte, they discuss both the spiritual and cultural impact of the changes happening in North Korea and how North Korea is the Lord’s bride, held captive by the Kim regime.

Episode 8: Imprisoned in Iran

Jeff King interviews Dan Baumann, an American believer who was imprisoned for his faith in Iran. Though he endured horrible conditions and terrible treatment while in prison, an experience with a guard sent to torture him led him to a revelation about God’s love.

Episode 9: Two Death Sentences

In part two of Jeff King’s interview with Dan Baumann, Dan describes what it was like to have two death sentences hanging over his head: one for being a follower of Jesus and one for being an American.

Episode 10: Why We Serve the Persecuted

Jeff King shares God’s powerful message to him about the persecuted church which ultimately ushered him into a decade-long journey in persecution ministry.

Episode 11: A Voice for the Voiceless

Jeff King interviews George Thomas, CBN News’ senior international correspondent and co-anchor, who has traveled to the darkest parts of the world to cover the growth of the church. He shares his insights into the theology of suffering and the purposeful calling of Christianity.

Episode 12: Bringing the Gospel to America

In part two of Jeff King’s interview with CBN international correspondent George Thomas, George shares a surprising realization about the spiritual burden for America that God has placed on the hearts of the persecuted church.

Episode 13: The Backpack Bible Smugglers

Two Girls. Two Backpacks. Twenty Thousand Bibles. For years, Maryam and Marziyeh operated an underground Bible smuggling ministry in Iran, determined to share the gospel with a nation hungry for the truth about Jesus.

Episode 14: Freedom in Prison

In part two of Jeff King’s interview with Maryam and Marziyeh, they share about their experience in Evin Prison, known as the “Torture Factory” of Iran, where they continued their evangelism ministry.

Episode 15: One Body

Francis Chan recently left America to begin his new ministry in Asia. As a tribute, Jeff King plays a speech that Chan gave in 2017 at an ICC conference where Chan revealed how we, the American church, can walk alongside our suffering brothers and sisters in Christ.

Episode 16: Imprisoned by the Taliban

In part two of Francis Chan’s speech at ICC’s Bridge Conference in 2017, he shares about an encounter that he had with a former captive of the Taliban in Afghanistan, a missionary who laid everything on the line for Christ.

Episode 17: Ready to Die for Christ

Christian author and leader Tom Doyle shares his life-changing experience as a missionary to the Middle East. With no experience or official training, Tom and his wife left for the Middle East with nothing but love for the people they would reach.

Episode 18: Dreams and Visions

In part two of Jeff King’s interview with Tom Doyle, Tom shares about his project “I Found the Truth”, a groundbreaking video series about Muslims who discovered Jesus through dreams or other unconventional ways. Through this series, he hopes to provide Muslims around the world a safe space where they can learn more about Jesus.

Episode 19: Opening the 10/40 Window

In part three of Jeff King’s interview with Tom Doyle, he gives an inside look into the secret life of Muslim Background Believers (MBBs) around the world today and the dangers that they face after converting to Christianity.