Empowered to Comfort the Persecuted

03/23/2021 Washington D.C. (International Christian Concern) – “You don’t have to be perfect to touch the Persecuted Church.”

These were the words of Pastor Greg Zetts, a former alcoholic saved by the Lord. Greg speaks the Word and has deep insight into the persecuted.

“They just want someone to come alongside them and say we’re with you, not fix them,” Greg said. “They want more than a check. They want your heart.”

In God’s economy, it means the world to weep with those who week and to identify with our brothers and sisters overseas. If we show real authentic care, they will be encouraged by how much God cares for them too. It is by God’s grace and power that we can walk in the things He’s called us to do. I ask you today, what is God calling you to do to support the Persecuted Church? How has he individually gifted you and positioned you to work for His Kingdom?

We’re excited for you to hear from him about how he’s empowered us to comfort the Persecuted Church. To listen to the full podcast with Greg Zetts, click here. 

Transcript:

NARRATOR: You are surrounded by heroes of the faith. They’re overseas in persecuted countries and they have life-changing, spiritual insights to share with you. Welcome to Into the Deep, a podcast with Jeff King, president of International Christian Concern.

JEFF KING: Well guys, this is a special treat today. I’m interviewing Pastor Greg Zetts from King of the Nations Church. Gregg has been a friend for a long time. We’ve traveled overseas to the Persecuted Church. This guy speaks the Word as deep insight. He really understands the Persecuted Church.

I think we’re going to learn a lot today. Gregg, we’ve been buds for a long time. I’m so excited for other people to meet you, so welcome.

GREG ZETTS: Well, it’s an honor to be here today.

JEFF KING: You bet. Tell us about yourself besides that you’re a pastor. Why have you been involved in the Persecuted Church? What moves your heart?

GREG ZETTS: We have been given a great privilege and the comfort of the Lord is very very important to the Lord. He’s a God of all comfort and He wants to empower us to comfort to comfort the Persecuted Church.

And what I have learned ministering overseas is that they just want someone to come alongside them and say, “We’re with you.” Not fix them.

JEFF KING: That means so much to them.

GREG ZETTS: It means so much, and it goes so far.

JEFF KING: It’s interesting because as a guy, we’re not necessarily good at feeling. If you say that to most women, they’ll be like, “Well, of course, yeah!” And to guys, because I remember that’s like a revelation, it just means so much to sit with somebody in their pain and say, “I’m with you.”

GREG ZETTS:  That’s right.

JEFF KING: It’s nothing else. I know about you. I’m thinking of you. I’m praying.

GREG ZETTS: There’s an identification. I think of Ezekiel sitting by the river Chebar for seven days and he sat among them and he wept. And then he spoke to them. There’s that place of identification, and they want more than a check. They want your heart.

I have just seen pastors come alive because of that principle. “You really care. God cares.” I’ve told many pastors, if I’ve come all the way around halfway around the world just to minister to you, that’s worth the whole trip. That’s God’s economy right there.

JEFF KING: That is God’s economy.

GREGG ZETTS:  I think the American Church is just inundated with managing our options. We have so many options. And our margins get so full managing. There is no margin. What am I going to watch tonight? What am I going to eat tomorrow? We are just caught up in all these obstacles.

It’s like the rich young ruler. He had all these options, but yet he didn’t want to sell all to follow Jesus. Well, the man who is building bigger barns and he’s very wealthy and he doesn’t know that his soul is going to be required from that that night. God calls him a fool in that parable.

We have to be very very serious about what our options are doing to us. For every man and woman in the church, it is going to be different. But we have options which equal time and treasure and the use of our talents. How are we using our time, talents and treasures for the Glory of God?

Again, it’s grace. I just want to say this: it’s grace. It’s more than unmerited favor. It’s literally God’s power given to us to do His Will. It’s not a superiority that we walk in, it’s not spiritual pride, like look at me. No, it’s grace.

You know I tell people all the time, I’m very stirred by the reality that if God can use me, he can use anybody.

JEFF KING: That’s right. Amen.

GREG ZETTS: Haha you’re not supposed to agree with that too quickly. But it’s so true. When you’ve lived a while and see the corruption of your own soul.

All of this is grace. An old German theologian said, if there’s anything good in me, it’s because of Jesus and He gets all the glory. Anything bad is my responsibility.

And that’s just the reality of the matter, but He uses broken vessels and you don’t have to be perfect to touch the persecuted church.

JEFF KING: Amen, that’s right.

NARRATOR: You are surrounded by heroes of the faith. They’re overseas in persecuted countries and they have life-changing, spiritual insights to share with you. Welcome to Into the Deep, a podcast with Jeff King, president of International Christian Concern.

JEFF KING: Well guys, this is a special treat today. I’m interviewing Pastor Greg Zetts from King of the Nations Church. Gregg has been a friend for a long time. We’ve traveled overseas to the Persecuted Church. This guy speaks the Word as deep insight. He really understands the Persecuted Church.

I think we’re going to learn a lot today. Gregg, we’ve been buds for a long time. I’m so excited for other people to meet you, so welcome.

GREG ZETTS: Well, it’s an honor to be here today.

JEFF KING: You bet. Tell us about yourself besides that you’re a pastor. Why have you been involved in the Persecuted Church? What moves your heart?

GREG ZETTS: We have been given a great privilege and the comfort of the Lord is very very important to the Lord. He’s a God of all comfort and He wants to empower us to comfort to comfort the Persecuted Church.

And what I have learned ministering overseas is that they just want someone to come alongside them and say, “We’re with you.” Not fix them.

JEFF KING: That means so much to them.

GREG ZETTS: It means so much, and it goes so far.

JEFF KING: It’s interesting because as a guy, we’re not necessarily good at feeling. If you say that to most women, they’ll be like, “Well, of course, yeah!” And to guys, because I remember that’s like a revelation, it just means so much to sit with somebody in their pain and say, “I’m with you.”

GREG ZETTS:  That’s right.

JEFF KING: It’s nothing else. I know about you. I’m thinking of you. I’m praying.

GREG ZETTS: There’s an identification. I think of Ezekiel sitting by the river Chebar for seven days and he sat among them and he wept. And then he spoke to them. There’s that place of identification, and they want more than a check. They want your heart.

I have just seen pastors come alive because of that principle. “You really care. God cares.” I’ve told many pastors, if I’ve come all the way around halfway around the world just to minister to you, that’s worth the whole trip. That’s God’s economy right there.

JEFF KING: That is God’s economy.

GREGG ZETTS:  I think the American Church is just inundated with managing our options. We have so many options. And our margins get so full managing. There is no margin. What am I going to watch tonight? What am I going to eat tomorrow? We are just caught up in all these obstacles.

It’s like the rich young ruler. He had all these options, but yet he didn’t want to sell all to follow Jesus. Well, the man who is building bigger barns and he’s very wealthy and he doesn’t know that his soul is going to be required from that that night. God calls him a fool in that parable.

We have to be very very serious about what our options are doing to us. For every man and woman in the church, it is going to be different. But we have options which equal time and treasure and the use of our talents. How are we using our time, talents and treasures for the Glory of God?

Again, it’s grace. I just want to say this: it’s grace. It’s more than unmerited favor. It’s literally God’s power given to us to do His Will. It’s not a superiority that we walk in, it’s not spiritual pride, like look at me. No, it’s grace.

You know I tell people all the time, I’m very stirred by the reality that if God can use me, he can use anybody.

JEFF KING: That’s right. Amen.

GREG ZETTS: Haha you’re not supposed to agree with that too quickly. But it’s so true. When you’ve lived a while and see the corruption of your own soul.

All of this is grace. An old German theologian said, if there’s anything good in me, it’s because of Jesus and He gets all the glory. Anything bad is my responsibility.

And that’s just the reality of the matter, but He uses broken vessels and you don’t have to be perfect to touch the persecuted church.

JEFF KING: Amen, that’s right. 

NARRATOR: Thanks for listening to Into the Deep: the persecution podcast. Check out our website, www.persecution.org, for more breaking news about the Persecuted Church and resources to serve your persecuted family. Head into the deep and be transformed by the persecuted, as we have.

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